The Fall of Kabul – The Taliban Are Back?

[Eric]

The sudden collapse of Kabul as American armed forces were in the process of withdrawal is not perhaps as shameful as it is bizarre and possibly unexplainable unless you assume the worst, the United States may have wanted it this way!

The US Armed Forces have been operating in Afghanistan for 20 years, that’s 2-0 years, they kicked the Taliban’s ass, ensured Russia and the former USSR were at bay from further influencing the region and they rebuilt the Afgan government into a modern state.

Backed by a formidable military presence in the Persian Gulf with a vast military network operating in the region and based in Bahrain, the US and Coalition forces have been in Syria, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan and Libya while protecting resources that are vital to the entire world in the Persian Gulf states of UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman and Bahrain.

With 20 years spent in Afghanistan, didnt the US Military forces arm and train the moderate Afghan government and its military?  What have they been doing all this time?  How could Kabul and the Afghan armed forces collapse without as much as a fight with the Taliban?  Was there an Afghani military built up by the USA, NATO and the EU as an eventuality for a withdrawal?  Was the United States planning on a permanent presence and permanent military role in the country?  Where is the Afghan Military? 

The Afghan Army should have had sufficiently equipped weapons to mop the Taliban single handedly into the Stone Age and the caves of their mountains.  What kind of battle readiness did the United States create in this country knowing its stability and survival is synonymous with the stability of the entire region.

Seems to me, and many friends and colleagues, the minute the US Forces started clearing their positions, the Taliban just rolled in without any kind of resistance and just retook the entire country without much opposition from anyone.  How could the President of Afghanistan just run away without mobilizing his army?  Where is his army and the military command of the country?  What has the USA been doing all this time in Afghanistan?

“Geez whiz” America, the Palestinian militias without anything but rubble and rocks would have put up a stiffer fight than the Afgan Army.  How is this charade even possible nowadays?

 

Eric
London, England

 

[Superman]

I work for an SBE for the DOT and various state agencies, what does the fall of Kabul mean to me?  It means more American soldiers will be coming home looking for work, having made a living on the misery of people wallowing in poverty and their corrupt governments overseas and now once again American soldiers face unemployment at home at the hands of corrupt domestic government agencies and administrations.

[Jennifer Mees]

My boyfriend in college was all about the ROTC and on so many occasions he told me how today’s personnel in the armed forces are treated so well when they complete their tours and return to civilian life thanks to decades of effort from the VA and coverage via news and movies decrying the fate of Vietnam vets.  Today’s armed forces are a far cry from those before them.  They get highest priorities at employment in their labor and skills class in both many private sector groups and all public sector agencies.

I also wanted to remind you (Superman) and others bemoaning the Middle East American armed forces, that these guys upon returning from Afghanistan or Bahrain are NOT necessarily going back to civilian life.  Most of them will still be on active duty and assigned either at home or abroad in the Pacific or Europe.  Its not an automatic end of military career when our men are called back home from a certain active region.

[DancinJustin]

@Eric  I am so impressed, it took just a few days for Afghanistan to fall back in the hands of the Taliban, the US and NATO backed government has vanished the moment they started withdrawing its as if to say, the Afghanistan government was nothing more than a puppet regime set up by European and US forces and only too happy to abdicate power to the taliban.

Former President Ashraf Ghani dropped the ball and ran IMMEDIATELY as if to tell the Taliban, Hey I didnt have a say in any of it, I was just forced to play President while coalition forces ran the country.  I am only glad to cede power to its rightful rulers, The Taliban.

Its so pathetic, so disgusting, this dude had an army and didnt even fire a shot.  How fake was the whole thing?  I really would like to know and the newsmedia WORLDWIDE has not been covering this angle at all, the fact that its obvious the army and the President did not represent THE WILL of the Afghan People to be so immediately overrun and overwhelmed by the Taliban.

What the heck are these reporters fabricating by way of headlines and storylines while ignoring the most glaring problem of all, A PUPPET REGIME installed by the United States falls overnight.  it got F-EXED AND FED-EXED to the dust pile of the Mongolian Desert.

[Charles Drucker]

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@dancinjustin  I dont get it, after almost twenty years in that god forsaken corner of the world and hundreds of billions spent what do we get? The Fall of Saigon repeat, the Taliban are right now executing anyone suspected of allegiance to the central government or to any western power.  They will completely purge the country.  And what do we get? A host for a new more dangerous Al Quaeda, ISIS, every terrorist group you can think of from Iran to North Korea and China as well any from unhappy turbin heads from Pakistan – who will mount operations on allies and American operations in the region and perhaps even outside the region.

I say the only way these guys will learn is to have them a taste of a nuke,

Nuke them and see if they come back anytime soon.  What is the point of having all that deterrence if we never use it and we just get run around by a bunch of desert illiterates in the furthest corners of the world.  They’re gonna be setting the agenda for the entire world?  This is some serious shit going down.

[Charles Drucker]

@DearbornRevs (Eric) are you delirious?  its been 40 years in Afghanistan, that 4-0 years, how did you come up with 20 years? Fancy English math? Don’t you love how key facts distort the overall picture?  😂 and you failed to mention Britain’s foray in Afghanistan more than a century ago resulting in the massacre of the British outpost, their withdrawal and on top of it all, lousing up the warm feelings Afghanis have for most English speaking folk.  That’s a very conveninient omission I must say!

[Archer Gerry]

The party in Afghanistan is JUST GETTING BIGGER 🎪🎈🥳

We have the Pakistani delegation AND the Chinese attempting to exert influence, India and Iran PLUS Saudi Arabia (shhhh no one in KSA thinks we know they want in? LOL), and let’s not overlook Russia hanging back in the background nevertheless wanting a piece of control over that region.

Its gonna be busy buzz buzz busy for a while in Kabul while the Taliban’s ego and horns start to mushroom under all that attention and they wrestle to polish themselves into statesmen.

The pressing question is will they become another Iran and North Korean regimes or will Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf states shepherd them into a more acceptable, marginalized state in the scheme of things.

The first thing the news media reported about the Taliban was their concern for funds and those from the Ghani regime who might have fled with a chunk of the one trillion pot of money purportedly spent by the USA “modernizing the country”😉  since 1979.

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